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How can having everyones DNA.....?


on record be a bad thing?? I mean how can it be abused as was put in the recent yahoo news story?? Wouldnt having everyones DNA profile on file make things much easier?? We would have DNA straight away to deal with crimes that happen, meaning the commiters can be caught earlier so they cant do it again and if someone goes missing they could be found quicker as their profile could be found and used on things were they have been supected of being? And compiling visitors DNA could also help cut illegal immigration and terrorism as airports could screen those flying?? So why are so many people against having their DNA on file, how would it break peoples privacy??

When it comes and it will in spite of legitimate fears aand the I have nothing to hide brigade you will find out and it will never ever actually be to your advantage

Yes It violates the 4th amendment against unreasonable search and seizure.

If you can't understand how being forced to give DNA samples is an invasion of privacy, then you're too stupid for any kind of reasoned discussion on the matter.

Knowledge--information--is power. The more information you give the government on you, the more potential there is for abuse.

For starters, that would violate the unreasonable search and seizure protection in the Constitution.

Second, it's my DNA. Nobody else needs to know what it is as I have not done anything wrong. I don't want others to know my DNA code. That's why it's a violation of my privacy.

Third, any time you put together a giant database of personal information, it is open for abuse. Think of the ID theft potential if somebody hacked into the database. Or the ability to frame people for crimes they did not commit by planting their DNA.

Good idea. And we should take everyones fingerprints at the same time, plant tracking chips in every person, listen in on every call, read every e-mail, collect a fired bullet from every gun and do a brain scan looking for abnormalities. We will all form a line behind you.

What the hell ever happened to old fashioned police work. I'm sorry but the government doesn't need to have my genetic code on file.

I understand all your points above but the main problem for me is the institutional incompetence of the people that will hold the information.

I just blogged this atrocity on my MSN blog. I hold no truck with the 'senior judge' who came out with this one.

I think it is just morally and ethically wrong diddly wrong wrong in terms of human rights to go down this road.

DNA evidence is at best suspect: anyone could nick a hair off someone's coat in a supermarket queue and then plant it at a crime scene.

The db is already poorly administrated (WHAT are 10-17 year olds doing on there for NO reason?!!!)

Stuff off, senior judge person, you're not the boss of me !
:-P

I think we should maintain a database of all Felons and/ or people arrested and imprisoned.

there are already enough controls on criminals but what happens they get let off time & time again to comit hundreds more crimes, so how will dna help it will not because they will let them off again ,
its to control the law abiding why because they will turn up in court pay the fine then go home,
one council in england said if they had dna on every one they could pick chewing gum up off the street check dna then send a fine out to who ever did it,
NOW DO YOU SEE HOW IT COULD & IN TIME WOULD BE ABUSED

I am obviously going to be a minority here but I believe everyone should give their own DNA sample to start a National database. If you haven't committed any crimes and have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear! I also believe that children up to the age of 18 should be micro-chipped like we do dogs and cats. These micro chips should be able to transmit a signal at all times and then if a child goes missing it would be easy enough for the police to find them. The chips can be rendered inert when they reach18. It would prevent the disappearance of children like Madeleine McCann! I would also advocate the use on Senior citizens who get confused and wander away from their homes. Just think of all the man hours which would be saved, and the unnecessary suffering of loved ones searching for missing people. They can come and chip me tomorrow if they want!

What if, with everybodys DNA being on record it starts being used to categorise people? I have heard about people being worried about a genetic elite being a possibility in the future. And we know what happened last time someone thought some people were inherently/genetically superior to others.
Its a scary thought that in the future people may be judged on there genetics rather than the person.Governments are untrustworthy/corrupt,don't forget this database,which WILL happen, will be used/shared throughout the EU,just as the one already in existence when someone is arrested is shared with all EU member states. That is where the original bill for a DNA database came from.The potential for abuse is enormous,especially with corrupt EU involvement and the "above the law" Europol. They know what they can do.............shove it!!
The European DNA Profiling Group (EDNAP) has existed since 1988 with the aim of establishing systematic procedures for data-sharing across the European community the Standardization of DNA Profiling in the European Union (STADNAP) group exists to promote co-operation across the EU in order to utilize DNA profiling ; and the European Network of Forensic Science Institutes (ENFSI) (2003) has similar ambitions to standardize forensic practices in support of policing across the whole of the EU...

A complete DNA Database is both a good, and bad thing.

Good: Wherever you go some of your cells will remain (unless you wear some-kind of encounter suit), so finding the perpetrator of a crime should become pretty easy.

Bad: DNA could be either simply grown or taken from a person and planted at a crime scene by someone who may wish to frame that person for a crime.

Conclusion: DNA evidence CAN BE MADE to match anyone on the record, as such, DNA will become refutable evidence...

(Note: A DNA Sample taken when people are arrested could be manipulated and used as Evidence against the person)

The government's record on installing computers has not been very good. There are too many things going wrong - take Armed Services pay for starters plus the complete mess on tax credits. Even if the system for storing Dna evidence is a good one how secure will it be. People can hack into almost anything.


And what about twins, triplets and other multiple births. Is their Dna the same?

All tyranny's state.......if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.

would you trust liebour with this?

i wouldn`t trust them as far as i could pick them up and throw them.

This is not about crime...it`s about controlling us...next thing you know they will want to microchip us.

Murder and Rape victims also have rights.

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