I want to ask, whether I would be doing a crime if I employ someone in my firm based upon his caste? I may not like to employ some one from OBC community and want to employ a person who is a Kshtriya.
Before answering this question, I would like to bring into the notice of respondents that Government has been doing this for last 15 years in Job sector and now want to extend the same in education as well (though the caste of the people is in reverse order). I want to know, emulating something which is already being practised by GOI, is right or wrong. Thanks. Unfortunately, the GOI of today is made up of people who have Double Standards, all because they are playing vote-bank politics.
They have allowed the lower caste to remain weak and even the enlightened individuals amongst them to perceive a sense of weakness so that the insecurity thus generated all around makes them stick together in times of reckoning when true wisdom is drowned in a sea of irrational thinking such as elections. These politicians than want to make use of the Mass Phobia that they have been successful in generating for their own narrow ends to remain in power in perpetuity by proclaiming themselves as the Saviours of the Downtrodden.
If what I have stated above is not true than will be see these so called Saviours like HRD minister, Mr Ajit Singh and CM Mulayam Singh marrying their progeny to relatives of say Laloo Prasad or Meera Kumari etc, etc, etc..... this is not crime but foolishness because it is not helping obcs
any more This is not a crime at all but what goi is doing is not foolishness rather they are befooling obcs only to get votes go ahead and do what u think is right INDIA IS A SECULAR CPUNTRY AND PEOPLE shd forget abt caste indiscriminity. Dear Friend
I dont understand the question,
if you are asking about the reservation, then I want to say that reservation is the step done by the politicians to divide the country into caste, religions. By reservation motive, they want to impress the various caste, & religion for their vote bank not to uplift them. in my opinion the govt have to ban this. Only it have to do if you have the guts come unles try your best for striving. its wrong. govt is sinking into a hole, u at least don't
take the more talented person. its for ur own good No, it is not a crime bcoz if govt. can do such things like giving quotas for education for their requirement so why don't we.And its yours requirment u r not doing any crime. It's not a crime but you're racist and that should make you feel something and what if you tried to get a job and they didn't hire you because of your race when you had good skills!!!! Wrong.To my knowledge ,I think Everything should need a Solution. If a person used his reservation quota once then their family should be forwarded, so that in some years there will be only one caste. Else OBC will be OBC for their life time who has become a rich and their son is still having the reservation quota in Education.That should be changed. You want to apply your own rule of reservation. The Government's idea of reservation is ameliorate the lot of the socially backward people by providing for reservation in Government jobs and educational institutions. Reservation for the socially upper caste does not make sense, because it only amounts to further giving advantageous position to those already enjoying social advantage, by reason of their birth. If it a firm or a Pvt. Ltd. Company then there is no such rules but in a Public Ltd. Company these things are a crime. Therefore if your organization falls under the category of Firm or a Pvt. Ltd Company then go ahead. Do you want to publicise your efforts of employing only FC's and keeping away OBC's.
This will amount to discrimination and is likely to be challenged in a Court of law.
Article 14 of our Constitution provide Equality before law. Article 15 and 16 of the Constitution provides protection to citizens against any kind of discrimination. Even if it is from any private company or individual discrimination is violation of fundamental right.
But the result/outcome would depend upon how far reaching your efforts are and who are the ones who will be affected by such a move.
I must say that you must be prepared for a showdown by such a move if someone over ethusiast tries to take you to task.
But there is another way of doing it probably. Dont publicise the issue and keep it to yourself and do it in a more strategic manner.
And mind you this is what is going to happen in the near future where all pvt. companies will ask for the religion/caste particulars of the individual and silently keep them out of the job if he/she is from the reserved category.
Consider this:
Earlier in our history we know that the Forward Castes ruled and they were the ones who were in the helm of affairs. The Backward classes were deprived, discriminated and abused and this is a fact which cannot be denied. They have suffered a lot irrespective of whose regime or whose rule it was.
May be its their turn now to be at the helm of affairs.
Its like a cycle of life where you come to the same point where you started.
It is said that this is the third or fourth evolution of life in which we are at present.
My take on the whole situation would be to live and let live. Dont discriminate anybody because one gets what he/she deserves either with merit or his destiny or both. Sorry to see people, thinking in such a way.
I WILL LIKE TO COMMENT DIRECTLY, TO THE POINT
Reservations on the cast basis should be their because,
from ancient times backward cast peoples are kept away from the field of education.
Speaking with respect to today's condition u might not be aware of the social conditions in villages EVEN TODAY.
These peoples r still harassed and r not even granted their social rights.
GOVT IS DOING TOTALLY CORRECT.
As u said govt is doing it only for the sake of votes,I totally DISAGREE on this statement.
Why will govt do so? Only to get few VOTES.
It is the govt who makes the rule & not the minister seeking votes once in 5 years. Why would anyone want to employ someone based on caste? Aren't Indians who scream loudly about descrimination in other countries descriminating against their own.
Employment of any person should be based strcitly on qualifications, i.e. can someone do the job? and how is person A more qualified in skills, experience, education than person B. that should be the only essential criteria, next would be interpersonal skills. Be able to prove quantitatively that the person hired is more qualified.
Stop all this nonsense and hire based only on qualifications, and stop perpetuating the cycle of discrimination anywhere for jobs.
Two wrongs don't make a right. The Central and all State Governments provided reservations in employment/jobs and educational institutions to members of the Scheduled Castes/Tribes and OBCs; in addition to lot of other facilities: FREE houses, house sites, agricultural lands, seeds, fertilizers, occupational equipments, dresses & uniforms, books, hostels, monthly expenses, etc. They can avail of it so long as they are SCs STs & OBCs (Hindu).
The very important & much necessary condition of remaining SC, ST, OBC is to remain a Hindu in Hinduism. Hinduism is not a religion. It is a culture, custom, tradition, way of Hindus' lives in Hindustan (India). It is claimed as such by all the well known Hindu priests, scholars, intellectuals, books, scripts, the Ruling Party BJP & Shiv Sena, Bajrang Dal, the Indian & International strongest Hindu organisations RSS & VHP, etc.
The SCs, STs, OBCs are much degraded & lower viewed, humiliated & insulted in Hinduism which practises inequality. The moment they embrace a religion and convert to Islam or Christianity, they lose all Govt. facilities though their financial and social condition will remain the same. They have to pay such big price for coming out of Hinduism; hence mostly prefer to remain in Hinduism for such financial benefits.
The moment, the Govt. withdraws these facilities/subsidies and reservations, millions and millions of SCs and STs will jump out of Hinduism and embrace a religion Christianity or Islam. Hence learned intellectual Hindus always continue such facilities to SCs & STs to keep them in Hinduism suffering all sort of inequalities, inhumanities, insults, humiliations,etc. The question is in two parts. The controversy of reservation relates to the State sector only. While there is as yet no legislation to provide for any reservation for any community, in the private sector, as and when any such legislation is enacted, it shall stand the test of 'intra vires' the Constitution, under art.19 freedom to engage in any business, trade or calling, which includes the right of managing the same, of which personnel management is part. So, anyone can employ any person of his choice, in his business, trade or calling, as per present law.
the next part relates to nitty gritty of business. Loyalty to birthplace, and own community are not legal sins or offence. So many well known business houses employ in top echeleons. persons of their community only. A first generation entrepreneur, who has made it big, has a policy of proving employment to all hailing from his native village. He has also liong-term planning in improving the educational standards of his villagers and has massively invested in education, to create a talent pool in the long term. But the primary loyalty of a businessman is to his business and in the interest of efficient functioning, in several areas of sensitivity, shop floor, material;s management, inventory, marketing, sales, banking, insurance, personnel management etc., he shall have the best possible talents assisting him, so that the targetted growth, profits internal accruals, ploughback, capital base, credit rating, expansion, mergers and acquisitions etc are taken care of. So, other things being equal, in each area of importance, employment shall be based on merit and if a candidate from the community is available fulfilling the criteria, there is nothing wrong in employing such a person. But the point to be driven homeinto the recruit is that the selection is based on merit only, so that no vainglorious attitudes or perception of proximity to the boss are anot developed in him, which may reflect in the behavioural pattern creating problems and affecting the business. what the government is doing to the non OBC you are doing it to the OBC. so if the government according to you is right, you are right then and viceversa. so you decide, is the government wrong or you are right. |
