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How is cutting back inmate rations to 2 oz. fish stick, 20 greenbeans, and 1 biscuit justifiable to cut costs?


why is the government permitted to promote such deplorable conditions, and why is it they tax the public to maintain the prison system and barely provide basic staples of living to inmates. inmates work for the state on roads and land and in various gov't facilities doing many things from harvesting parts from old police cars, to cleaning gov't buildings and the state retains much of the tax dollars alloted for such work, repairs, etc..while inmates work for pennies on a dollar for commissary to purchase food to supplement their diet, reconstituted hygeine products, and writing materials to write their loved ones. on top of this they barely recieve concentration camp sized rations, get yelled at, beaten, and abused. is it any wonder why so many re-offend, or lash out out from just plain being worn out physically, spiritually, and emotionally? then if they try and do something about it, they can be sued for $46 per day incarcerated? sure they have no civil rights what about human rights

i guess it depends on the state and the facility you are in, but i've heard of quite a few really bad ones. it's sad and really pathetic when even guards feel bad about the place. it's also a shame when some of them view these guys as animals... my friend earned 2 purple hearts in iraq, and was just defending a chic getting raped a few short weeks after he got debriefed/left the service...and despite this it just seems a shame this is how he's treated...and i've seen guards scream in his face and call him words i cant even post on this page...like they really believe he is that. has the system gone a little too far?

I don't feel sorry for them at all! In the state of Ohio, it costs over $70/day to take care of inmates...do you know how much is spent on early education....LESS THAN $4/day.
(I did a college thesis paper on this!)

Where are the priorities?? Not with our future, for sure. If more was spent on early education...we would have less need for prisons, because crime and drugs would be lessened. (There is documented research for this)

I feel that inmates have TOO MANY luxuries as it is...especially with children in America homeless and starving...but if you feel inmates deserve more..........

they are in prison for a reason, they shouldn't be treated like P.O.W.s and i don't think it's like what you described at most prisons.

That is why they call it punishment.

Before they were getting like 3200 calories per day. People really can do with 2000 calories fine. They get fed a LOT. Unless you've worked in or been through the prison system, it's hard to separate fact from truth.

Why are they in jail. It isn't a sleep away camp.

Pardon, but you're way off base. Those inmates eat better than I do! They get better health care and better housing conditions. I'd love to be able to eat that kind of food, but I can't afford it. Every dime I have pays for medication that I need just to survive - Insulin. My co-pay is $60/bottle. I use about 6 bottles a month. My insulin pump supplies are not covered - $562/month. My blood testing strips are not covered - $58/25 test strips (I am supposed to test 4 to 6 times a day - but I can't afford to, I test about once a week). So quite frankly, it pisses me off that they get to eat better, live better, and even get free health care, BECAUSE THEY ARE A BUNCH OF CRIMINALS. I am a law student who works very hard to be a productive member of society. I have FOUR JOBS just so I can pay for my medicine and insurance (the school's insurance won't cover me at all). I can't afford fish stick OR biscuits!

so who do you know in prison? obviously you are bitching on behalf of someone you know.are you aware that most prisons allow friends and family to bring food rations into them twice a month?

Momma always said, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime

The inmates in the prison by me get treated just fine.

They have free college education, free weight room/exercise equipment, free cable tv and internet, aren't expected to do anything but if they do they get paid for it. Many even receive social services money and other benefits that give them more of a free ride on the taxpayers. I do believe they even eat better than many low-income people in the area.

Doesn't seem that bad of a life to me. At least in the prisons around here.

because Americans are sadists.
Puritanical sadists.
the prisons are de facto mental institutions.
and the conditions therein are a source of joy to sadistic Americans.
americans are more concerned about gas prices and the latest reality show than they are about civil rights.
those sound like starvation rations to me.

Germany WW2 rations were 1600 cals for German
1400 for Jew married to German(there were actually a few of them around...in German cities)
Polish rations were 750 calories
how many calories in the fish sticks and the greenbeans and biscuits?
an adult male of 150 lbs needs 1500 a day

That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard!

First off, they do NOT live in deplorable conditions. They SHOULD, but they DON'T!!

They are in prison for a REASON! They are there to be PUNISHED and to protect the society that they VICTIMIZED!

Instead of putting convicted criminals to work, making them earn their keep - to pay for their "rent", food, clothing, medical care and other expenses (all of which taxpayers currently pay for), just like law-abiding hard-working Americans have to do, the US would much rather waste taxpayers hard-earned money to "reward" criminals with FREE CABLE TV, free computer access, free exercise equipment and other luxuries while even Americans who work 2 or 3 jobs can't afford even basic health care & schools have had to lay off teachers, slash programs, and increase class size.

There is something SERIOUSLY wrong with a society where convicted criminals get better services than the law-abiding, hard-working productive taxpaying members of society.

It is incredible and APPALLING that thieves, pedophiles, robbers, rapists and murderers can get free cable TV, free computer access, and free exercise/recreation equipment while in public schools - especially in the inner cities, there is not enough funding for children to each have decent textbooks of their own to study from.

The stupid American government spends our hard-earned money on luxuries for convicts who steal, molest, rob, rape and kill, and at the same time there are 47 million people who are uninsured and can't even afford basic health care!

Sorry, but you are preaching to the WRONG choir! I have NO sympathy for convicted criminals who spend all day sitting in their cells watching free cable TV while those who follow the laws have to struggle and toil just to pay taxes and keep a roof over their heads and food on the table, not to mention all the LUXURIES prisoners get which they can only DREAM of affording!

So I suppose you want our prisons to be like a luxury hotel? Seriously, they commit the crime, they shouldn't expect an extended stay at a spa. It's a lot better than you think it is in prison. They get better health care coverage than MANY Americans, all paid for by, OUR TAX DOLLARS.

I know some guys who commit crimes to stay incarcerated so they have a roof over their head and food to eat.

A little fun fact for you: The Sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona, took away salt and pepper packets from the inmates and saved the county $20,000.

If your in prison, you should be happy with whatever you get. It shouldn't be like a stay at the countryclub. If you want better, or more food, get a job and be a responsible human being. In my opinion, if your in prison, you shouldn't have any rights, you shouldn't get to watch t.v. or go to the gym and pump iron or do anything enjoyable. You're the one who screwed up. Don't do the crime if you don't want to do the time.

I agree.

Let's just execute them all and keep the beans and fishsticks for a picnic in celebration.

Do you believe all lies so easily?

Oh, by the way, you still haven't paid me the $10,000 you borrowed yesterday.

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