Why can't abortion be illegal?

I've seen all the rants and raves of why abortion should be legal, but no arguments are valid. Can anyone give me a good reason why we should keep this holocause going for any longer? 35 years is enough, I think... in fact, a little TOO long.

With no regards to religion, come up with something better than:

Rape: abortion won't 'erase' what happened, and for every 1 infant that's available for adoption, there's 40 couples WAITING to adopt. The rape happened whether you have an abortion or not-- killing an innocent baby won't help anything.

Incest: Less than 1% of abortions happen for this reason (adding rape to it!)... and again... it happened... whether you like it or not. Abortion won't fix the past.

Women will die in a back-alley: Oh, please. Illegal abortions happened, but they were usually done by professional doctors, not crazy people with knives ready to take out their frustrations on a willing woman. And only 39 deaths occurred in 1972 (the year before Roe v. Wade) from illegal abortions. Do you think that number has changed from it being legalized? Look it up... the number has gone UP from complications arising from abortions. Smarties, I tell ya!

They will happen whether they're legal or not: Yeah-- and so will drug dealing, murders, rapes, robberies, and price gouging. There are laws for a reason, people!

I should have a choice with my body: Wow... that amazes me that women can even say that. Especially smart ones. Bodies are still the woman's choice to do what she wants... but that also includes not having sex unless you want to have a baby OR use contraception. Abortion is not a contraceptive-- it's murder AFTER conception!

A baby isn't a baby until after birth: Even more amazing. Biology explains what a zygote is, I think in like 7th grade. If you didn't make it that far in school... your opinion isn't quite needed here. Once sperm digs into the egg, it's life... no ifs, ands, or buts about it. There's NO difference WHATSOEVER in a 5wk embryo and a baby that has just been born. That's like saying a child isn't a human until it's 18... simply because of time and development.

Okay-- now... I'm waiting on a reason...

As for rights and freedoms: do I have the right and freedom to murder my friend because she is a nuisance sometimes... actually - YES, I do! But... that right and freedom that I have of CHOICE will still put me in jail or on death row. We all have choices... and rights... and several freedoms. But that does NOT make things the right thing to do. Do better than that.

Thank God that is at least one reasonable person on Yahoo! answers! I completely agree with what you say, even more - you just gave me some more reasons to want to oppose abortion.

Also to add to what you say, people only talk about the freedom of choice of the mother - what about the freedom of choice of the baby? Does the baby want to be killed? Doesn't it want to have the same right to life as the mother? Think about it everyone who is now alive and reading this - would you have preferred that your mom aborted you when you were 5 weeks young and never had the chance to experience you are experiencing now?

And another so called reason to support abortion that I hate so much - the embryo has as much life as a fingernail. Wait 9 months for a fingernail to grow and the only thing you get is eagle claws. Wait 9 months for an embryo to grow and see what you get!!!

Because my rights are protected under the Constitution to be free from your version of morality.
If you don't like abortion, don't have an abortion.
And a zygote is as much "life" as a fingernail.

Read a sociology book.

Education is the key to preventing unwanted pregnancies.

Crime prevention (economic opportunities) is another key to preventing rape and violence in general not just against women.

Oh and what is your reason to make it illegal? Seems like YOUR own reason is because there are couples that want to adopt the child. Sorry but you aren't presenting a real reason either.

Because liberals enjoy killing babies. They don't mind having unprotected sex with strangers outside of marriage, but don't want to deal with the inconvenient consequences.

because some girls who are teenagers just aren't ready to have kids yea they should have used protection but everyone needs choices and it was there choice to have an abortion i agree there killing another human being but its there problem not yours

I happen to believe in population control. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

So stop trying to shove your beliefs down my throat, and I'll keep mine to myself too.

Why are you so concerned with other people? You should mind your own business. Opinions are one thing and I respect other peoples, but they are not to be forced on others by law.

You seem to be trying to talk yourself and everyone else into your beliefs. Could your "question" be any less question like? Could it be more long winded?

Because people deserve a choice.
A choice to.
and a choice not to.

YOU all ready have the answer, just read it very simple isn't"

it goes against our charter of rights and freedoms

"Once sperm digs into the egg, it's life... "

actually it's life before the sperm digs into the egg - now run off to church and leave us rational people alone

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everytime you fail to fertilize an egg you deny another human a chance to live

MURDERER!

I don't understand why people think that the government needs to be involved in this issue. If you don't agree with abortion and would never have one than that is your choice.

I personally don't think abortion is something that I would do, I don't look at it as a form of birth control, but the whole subject is not black and white like some tend to think. We do have to think about those small percentages of people who are raped or are at risk for their own health if they carry a baby. Not all abortions are done as a form of birth control. I don't think it is right for the government to make the decision what is right and wrong as far as morals go.

I am sorry but if I was raped, I have three other children to think about and I really don't think I could carry a rapists baby, I know it is not the baby's fault but there will always be that stigma that the baby was a product of rape, and I have heard cases where the rapist files for visitation rights and gets them! How messed up is that?

I also don't think that a 16 year old girl who is raped by her own brother or father should be forced to carry a child when she did not consent to sex in the first place and of course under the circumstances.

I also do not want the choice taken away from me if I were to have something wrong with me and carrying a baby to term would kill me, that would be selfish to leave my three living children without a mother.

Another thing to think about is, the other reasons for abortion, poverty, drug addiction etc, many people who have views like you do not support the welfare system. If all of these babies were born who do you think would be paying for them probably for the rest of their lives?

Abortion is not contraception of course and most reasonable people think that but other considerations need to be thought of as well. I personally am insulted when people like you go around calling people murderers'. Usually people as yourself call yourselves Christians as well, and are being very judgemental and don't know everyones' personal business therefore you need to take care of your own self.

If my daughter were raped and she wanted an abortion there is no way I would call her a murderer and make her carry the baby. You can disagree, but abortion is legal and women should have a choice.

You can say all the percentages you want but it doesn't matter how small a percentage is, it would be wrong to exclude people in those percentages for people who want to make abortion illegal in all cases.


EDIT: Nice excuse of "I would adopt , but" So what if you already have three kids, there are many people who have more than that, and if you are so for your cause, whats a few more? It doesn't take as long as you are stating, there are many ways to adopt that do not take as long as you are saying. If you actually considered it and looked into it you might know. In fact my brother in law and his wife adopted a baby through an agency that is only African American babies and it took only 8 months, and they were in the hospital when the baby was born.

before i answer this be aware that i'm against abortion but,if we we're to illegalize it in america people would go to other countries and other questionable sources to get their babies killed,better to do it in a safe environment then endanger the mother's life,using the title of mother loosely there...

here in ireland abortion is still illegal although of course people will still travel to uk to have abortions & now im kinda stuck...cant give you the good reason your looking for!!!!!!!! i agree with abortion being illegal for all the reasons you mentioned above,i believe a baby is a baby from conception,rape victims if possible should adopt out if they cant bring themselves to keep the baby & women have a choice & the choice is get pregnant or dont....no point deciding o its my body after conception & so on.....good luck with the rest of your answers :)

If you don't think there is a difference between a fetus at five weeks and a baby that has just been born, then it is you that didn't make it through 7th grade biology. Simply put, a fetus is not a human being. Abortion should not be illegal because it is no more than a medical procedure performed on a woman who chooses to have it performed.

people dont deserve anything. we have privledges.everything is a priveledge. if it was illegal more people would be using contraceptions. it should be illegal! all forms of abortion, and no matter what the reason it SHOULD be illegal.
its mere human default on why its not illegal in my opinion.
(if that made any sense)
NOTE: morality or just plain sense? if u beleive in abortion(which is killing an innocent human) then u must feel people can beat there babys to death when they dont want them anymore. (which is also killing an innocent human)
ANOTHER NOTE: If there are so many children in foster care. y do they make it so expensive to adopt? for crying out loud. our family brings home 3200 dollars a month, i dont work..i have 4 kids.. i can afford to shop at all the brand name stores and i have to very decent vehicles a large house animals, we always have money for anything and everything my husband and i want and my kids. so y cant i adopt any baby. cuz they want way to much ...the system is corrupt and needs fixed. Me and my husband do have the heart to adopt a "crack baby" like many other americans do. the truth is very simple!
NOTE: i also agree about being a rape victim. quit trying to be a victim . it will consume u and everything about u. you have to teach urself to let go about those things. and yes i was one. but im not a victim!

Because we don't all agree on what is considered "life"

my personal opinion is somewhere around the 12th week, I think first term abortions are destroying a cluster of eggs that are not yet a person.

a sperm + an egg do not instantly make a "baby"

just my opinion. leave it to the individual, not the government.

If you don't like abortion, don't have one.

Your rebuttel to the "I should have a choice" point is odd. You are saying that women DO have a choice - don't have sex or use contraception. But just a few sentences earlier you argued that women who were raped should be forced to have the baby. They didn't CHOOSE to be raped.

So essentially what you're saying is that women DO have a choice, but in those cases when they DIDN'T have a choice they SHOULDN'T have one anyway. Hmmm.

Why do you care so much about the private lives of other people? Does it truly, truly affect you in any way the fact that some woman that you have never met who lives 600 miles away had an abortion? I don't understand why pro-life people want such control over everyone else. I am pro-choice, not pro-abortion. I recognize that this is a tremendously personal issue and that whatever a woman chooses should be private and up to her and her significant (or insignificant) other.

And you, being a victim of rape should know that how a woman feels after that (degraded, worthless, disgusting) would only be worse if she found out she was pregnant with the child of her rapist. Why would you want laws in place to force a woman, who was raped, to carry an unwanted child for 9 months as a reminder of her rape every day. Wow.

I guess I will just never understand.

if you are so conserned , why then are there over 900,000 kids STILL in foster care . put your money where you mouth is . adopt a few . and not just the cute white babies , i mean a teenage , inner city , former crack baby , kid . lack of birth control is a very cost efficient method by the rich to keep the poor and minorities down . you want them born ? YOU pay to raise them . otherwise stfu .

Okay as for rape - do you really want a constant reminder of the man who raped you in your baby?
Or for 9 months being pregnant when everyone around you is like "Oh who is the father?" and you have to know that its some physco that raped you?

I agree that abortion is cruel but there are some situations when its okay.

and as for the comment above about putting the baby up for adoption in this scenario, well what if the man who raped you had a serious mental illness which causes him in inflict pain upon other human beings and that gene passed down to the child. Then the child is going to start raping or killing people?

Once sperm digs into the egg it's life..
While it's true that it's a form of organic life, without devolving into religious rants about souls and God knowing you in your womb there is a unique difference between the zygote and a baby. The zygote has no brain function through the first trimester. Meaning in common terms it's brain dead. It also has no central nervous system until late in the second trimester, so it feels nothing.
I like many people, am against late term abortions except when the mother's life is at risk, but arguing that a first trimester embryo is the equivalent of a newborn is entirely disengenuous.
What makes us human, and what gives us value is not unique DNA, it's a functioning brain capable of thought on a level that separates us from other animals, and this isn't present in a first trimester embryo.

sorry for the reality check but Abortion is killing no matter what the excuse is.......I didn't read that whole paragraph you wrote, but people don't want to HAVE to keep their legs closed because they have NO self control....and with regards to being assaulted, its still half them, so if they want to kill their own flesh and blood, they will meet their maker, and we all just have to hope that the baby won't be able to feel the pain, while being murdered, even though the nervous system is developed 21 days after conception...nobody here is GoD right?? human rights??? right?? so then why do people try to PLAY God when they DECIDE/CHOOSE who lives and who dies??

with regards to JM-can you say drama?

It's your OPINION that there are no valid reasons for abortion to be legal, just as that is the opinion of many other people, but, on the flip side, it is also the opinion of many other people that there is no valid reason for it to be illegal. Some people feel that scientific evidence says that life begins at conception, and, therefore, the unborn are people at all stages of pregnancy and are entitled to the rights of any other person as such. However, others feel the question of when life begins is strictly theological, and, therefore, it is impossible to know at exactly what point life begins. People have many different beliefs about abortion and are all entitled to them, but there is only one issue for the law to decide when it comes to abortion and that is, from a strictly scientific view, without considering any issues of morality, when does life officially begin? Laws vary from state to state, but since Roe vs Wade, the Supreme Court has held that it is a woman's right to have control over her own body, and, therefore, while states have some right of control over the performance of abortions, it is not constitutional for any state to completely deny abortions at all stages. Agree with it or not, the general concensus of the law is that, while an unborn child may have some degree of rights in the womb, depending on the state, and the specific stage of viability, it does not become a person in the same way you are and I am, with the exact same rights you and I have, until it is born and breathes on its own. Some people agree with the law's take on this and some people don't. I'm not sharing any specific opinions on my views of abortion or confirming whether or not I agree with any of this. Abortion is such a controversial subject and so many people are on different (or both) sides of the issue and always will be. For as much as people who support it argue with people who are against it, neither side is ever going to really win and convince all people from the other side to agree with their point of view, so forever arguing about this heated debate is bound to be futile. I'm only trying to shed some light on the subject for you as to how the law views it and it's rationale for allowing it.

Have you ever heard of Rape Trauma Syndrome? It's a specialized form of Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome, and it's a horrible experience for anyone. Look it up. Read one account by a rape survivor, about how hard it was for her afterward, and then reconsider your arguement. There is no reason we should be asking rape and incest survivors to suffer extra trauma. It's just cruel.

On Rape Trauma Syndrome: http://www.rapevictimadvocates.org/traum...

Next thing, contraception isn't 100% effective. It works pretty well, but accidental pregnancies still happen. According to the Guttmacher Institute, 62 million women in this country are sexually active, fertile, and do not want children, 89% (or 55 million) used birth control. That would mean 55 million unwanted pregnancies.

Nearly 500,000 children were in the foster/adoption system in the US, at the end of the 2007 fiscal year. 51,000 of children had been adopted during that year. (from the Administration of Children and Families, of HHS) Our child welfare system can't handle the burden it has now, but a new burden of one thousand times that?

Are you going to give all those unwanted babies a home?

Onto the biology lesson, a 5 week old fetus can't survive without a host to support it. It's certainlly a very intricate ball of cells, but without a mother to carry it, it would die. You would give that ball of cells, that can't survive on it's own, more rights than a woman?

Marcia is flat out wrong, the nervous system of an fetus isn't developed until 6th or 7th month, according to the American Medical Association. See the article below on fetal pain, they peg the 29th week.

http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/ful...

Onto the constitution, the guarantees the american people won't be stripped of rights not specifically mentioned in the constitution. See the Ninth Amendment...

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

That includes privacy rights, and the right to make our own decisions on our lives, bodies, sexuality, and medical care.

Why do you care so much? Are you willing to adopt the children of these unwanted pregnancies? If all these pro-lifers would adopt at least one unwanted child, then maybe they'd have some validity. Your statistics are wrong, if there are so many people waiting for children, then why are there orphanages and foster care? Even if a lot of these people who can't really take care of these children, or don't really want them, or the child as a result of rape and still keep them, it is likely that these children will grow up to be a drain on society. If every women had their baby, do you realize there would be hundreds of millions of more people in this nation alone? That overpopulation would cause various problems, such as increase in unemployment, homelessness, death for lack of health care, etc... It would put our nation down the shitter.
You can deal with your own guilty conscience by not having an abortion, but butt out of other people's business.

i seriously cannot stand the people who come here and talk about rape. have you been raped? do you know the pain? unless your answer is yes, you have NO right to open your mouth on it. as a victim of rape, people like you disgust me.

keep your rant to a pro-life website because no one cares what you say. you opinion does not matter to the governement.

I think abortion should be illegal. I'm 110% pro life.. it doesn't matter if the woman was raped or not.. it's not the baby's fault. Besides, she could always put the baby up for adoption. There are a lot of family's out there that want to have kids, but can't and would adopt.

Beautiful.

It is amazing how Liberals fight for the right to murder babies for the convenience of it.

That's all it is; a convenience.